Hi Jacky Foo and Simon Appleby,

I am impressed with the clear presentation and the complexity
with which it is worked out. It's obvious on reading that this
is the work of people with the greatest familiarity with
integrated bio-systems to achieve zero wastes.

Its hard for people like me to assess how it will work-
it seems likely that your system will work nicely for the 235
cattle you plan to handle -

if I understand this, you are not raising cattle - but taking them in (for
how long?),  fattening them and slaughtering them - is that true? and if
so, are there enough cattle around to maintain this? what is done with them
now? what's the total land involvement for all life of the cattle.

I am always concerned with health issues, the more so in the tropics where
microbes flourish - how safe is this at each stage - and how stable - in
the sense for instance if one puts an effort into raising komodo dragons,
how much risk is there that the komodo dragons will become ill and die -
not to speak of the cattle - and the alligators which readers seem to think
would be a tourist attraction - as food! maybe

If you set out to raise worms, what might infest the worms and how much
problem will be caused by competitors - I set out to feed sparrows and
squirrels - but I cant get rid of the pigeons! and no starlings visit me
since the pigeons learned that I live here!

how does raising worms, dragons compare with other things one can do for
tourism - Bali has a huge tourism trade - maybe I would want to farm a much
more expensive fish that I could sell to tourists, Maybe I would do better
to raise ornamental carp for people to look at while eating puffed rice
candy (is it still found in Bali), training dancers- printing books for export to the mainland- especially children's books which are usually in short supply

I hear you saying to me, these are not the right questions because we are
considering that if we have an abattoir, how can we deal with the waste-
and that's clearly right - still I can't help wondering, why raise cattle-
 is this an improvement over raising ducks on the irrigation ditches?,

Is the volcano on Bali extinct? if not, you could save trouble by throwing
some of the least degradable stuff in the volcano- I've never heard of this
as a system for waste disposal- but in a place like Bali, where everything
grows luxuriantly, recycling via photosynthesis is easy- you might want to
do this and avail yourself of all that lava for whatever-

well this is a little far out but you did want to jumpstart this discussion!

Elaine Newman